FreeFileSync 7.7 Build: Dec 1 2015 opening full screen on OS X

Posts: 5 · thegeekpea 11 Dec 2015, 19:20

7.7 Build 12/1/15 is opening up into full screen mode on OS X every single time I open it.

I am on OS X 10.11.2. I tried deleting all the preferences and it opened up in normal window mode the first time and then the 2nd time and every time after opens up in full screen again.

Posts: 7282 · Zenju 13 Dec 2015, 16:21

I'm not able to reproduce this issue on OS X 10.11.2. What is your "MainDialog" configuration in GlobalSettings.xml after you've run FFS and the dialog was not maximized during exit?

/Users/<user name>/Library/Application\ Support/FreeFileSync/GlobalSettings.xml

Posts: 5 · thegeekpea 29 Dec 2015, 14:48

It appears to be an compatibility issues with Moom. If I don't touch the FFS window I can open and close it several times and it never goes into full screen. I have Moom setup so I can drag any window to the top of the screen and it maximizes to fill the screen (not OS X full screen). After I do that and quit and reopen FFS it goes full screen.

Before:
<MainDialog Height="578" Maximized="false" PosX="589" PosY="411" Width="900">

After:
<MainDialog Height="578" Maximized="true" PosX="255" PosY="114" Width="900">

Posts: 7282 · Zenju 29 Dec 2015, 15:15

This is expected: Beginning with version 10.10 OS X changed its default behavior so that enlarging a window will set full screen by default, not maximize as it was before. FFS does not differentiate between maximized and full-screen states, so when closing FFS it will save the maximized state as `Maximized="true"` which will be interpreted as full screen mode during the next FFS start up.

Posts: 5 · thegeekpea 29 Dec 2015, 15:47

Strange, I don't have this issue with any other app since using Moom.

Posts: 5 · thegeekpea 29 Dec 2015, 15:49

And yes I understand the default behavior in OS X changed for the zoom button, however, I am not clicking the zoom button. I am using Moom (https://manytricks.com/moom/) to simply drag the window to the top of the screen and maximize to fill the entire screen (not the default OS X full screen view). So it's definitely not directly related to 10.10 or even my setup with Moom, it has to be a change done in FFS since this worked fine with my setup and current version of OS X in previous versions of FFS.

Posts: 5 · thegeekpea 29 Dec 2015, 15:59

To test this, I installed FFS 7.6 and the behavior is there but FFS 7.5 it is not. I have attached my current GlobalSettings.xml for 7.5 and then after running 7.7. I see that they both show "maximixed" however, the window dimensions for 7.5 don't appear to have updated however when I open 7.5 it does show maximixed and fills the screen like it should.

Posts: 7282 · Zenju 29 Dec 2015, 19:35

This is not about a technical problem but about a decision: FFS has a single state "(bool)Maximized", while OS X has two states "maximized" and "full screen". Both of these states are considered the same by FFS during shutdown. The question is what should FFS do during startup if "Maximized" is true? Currently it sets the app to full screen, since this seems to be what most OS X users expect (???) since Yosemite. But it could alternatively set the app to maximized state, too.
Are there any official OS X recommendations?

Posts: 1 · texorama 13 Jul 2016, 22:20

Pleeeeeeeeeeeease just leave it at "maximized", not full screen, this is so incredible annoying... Thanks!

Posts: 7282 · Zenju 14 Jul 2016, 10:10

Pleeeeeeeeeeeease just leave it at "maximized", not full screen, this is so incredible annoying... Thanks!texorama

Is there some official Apple guideline or is it just personal preference?