Hi, I am new here.
On my Win10 PC i have installed the Donater version of ffs. As backup media I am using a network-drive WD My Cloud EX2 Ultra with 2 TB RAID.
I setup a synchronisation from several Folders with subfolders on drive F: to a folder at the network-drive.
The foldes at the nework drive are created by so called "Freigaben" with the desktop app of WD.
On the right side the subfolders are in a flat structure, not as subfolders from the mainfolders.
How can I prenvent that, to get the similar folder structur as on the left side ?
Thanks in advance for your support.
Hans
Subfolders not synchronised
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FreeFileSync (FFS) syncs content between the left and right base location, retaining the (sub)folder structure relative to the base locations.
Very likely you made a mistake in defining your left and right base location(s).
In order to help you, you need to be more specific:
Do you use one or more left-right base location pairs?
What does the left-right base location folder pair (or the folder pairs) look like?
Do you use any (non-default) Filter settings?
> The foldes at the nework drive are created by so called "Freigaben" with the desktop app of WD.
I know what the word "Freigaben" means, but have no clue what your sentence means or if it bears any relevance in this matter.
Very likely you made a mistake in defining your left and right base location(s).
In order to help you, you need to be more specific:
Do you use one or more left-right base location pairs?
What does the left-right base location folder pair (or the folder pairs) look like?
Do you use any (non-default) Filter settings?
> The foldes at the nework drive are created by so called "Freigaben" with the desktop app of WD.
I know what the word "Freigaben" means, but have no clue what your sentence means or if it bears any relevance in this matter.
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Thanks Perry for the fast answer.
Is it possible to sent an attachment with definitions of the left and the right base locations ?
I'm shure I made a mistake by defining both sides.
I want to synchronize (Spiegeln) several folders with subfolders on the left side to one Folder on the right side (Freigabe on the network drive). By this action a got a warning, which I have ignored !
For the left side I cross the setting "Use lokal settings" (Datum und Grösse, Dateninhalt, Dateigrösse)
No Filter defined.
For the right side "Spiegeln" and "Papierkorb"
I can imagine that ot is a problem to have several folder pairs synchronising to one folder.
Hope, that this helps to getfurther.
Sincerly
Hans
Is it possible to sent an attachment with definitions of the left and the right base locations ?
I'm shure I made a mistake by defining both sides.
I want to synchronize (Spiegeln) several folders with subfolders on the left side to one Folder on the right side (Freigabe on the network drive). By this action a got a warning, which I have ignored !
For the left side I cross the setting "Use lokal settings" (Datum und Grösse, Dateninhalt, Dateigrösse)
No Filter defined.
For the right side "Spiegeln" and "Papierkorb"
I can imagine that ot is a problem to have several folder pairs synchronising to one folder.
Hope, that this helps to getfurther.
Sincerly
Hans
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Based on your
> I want to synchronize (Spiegeln) several folders with subfolders
> on the left side to one Folder on the right side (Freigabe on the
> network drive). By this action a got a warning, which I have ignored !
and your
> I can imagine that ot is a problem to have several folder pairs synchronising to one folder
I have a suspicion of what you did "wrong".
I will make a few very simple (example) assumptions.
* You have a at least two subfolders that you want to sync from your C-drive to your W-drive.
C:\FolderC\SubFolderC1 and C:\FolderC\SubFolderC2
* you want to Mirror those subfolders into W:\FolderW
It seems you now have (at least) two left-right folder pairs:
Pair 1, Left: C:\FolderC\SubFolderC1 , Right: W:\FolderW
Pair 2, Left: C:\FolderC\SubFolderC2 , Right: W:\FolderW
This would create a copy of all content of SubFolderC1 and SubFolderC2 into FolderW (in its existing folder structure), giving the "problem" you describe that everything ends up in FolderW instead of in respective subfolders.
Additionally, it gives you the warning that there is an overlap between sync locations. This is correct, as both pairs share W:\FolderW.
There are two options to "solve" the problem (start by clearing all content from FolderW):
Option 1): create two folder pairs as follows:
Pair 1, Left: C:\FolderC\SubFolderC1 , Right: W:\FolderW\SubFolderC1
Pair 2, Left: C:\FolderC\SubFolderC2 , Right: W:\FolderW\SubFolderC2
If W:\FolderW\SubFolderC1 and or W:\FolderW\SubFolderC2 do not yet exist, FFS will ask you if it should create those folders for you, and you should confirm this.
Option 2): create a single folder pair as follows:
Pair 1, Left: C:\FolderC , Right: W:\FolderW
and define an Include Filter comprising two lines (replacing the default "*" Include Filter):
\SubFolderC1\*
\SubFolderC2\*
Both options should give you the (seemingly) desired result.
And there is no longer an overlap between sync locations, thereby omitting the warning.
> For the left side I cross the setting "Use lokal settings" (Datum und Grösse, Dateninhalt, Dateigrösse)
I suppose you mean the (global) Compare (F5) (Vergleichen) settings.
Or do you use multiple left-right pairs with local Compare settings? If so, why?
> I want to synchronize (Spiegeln) several folders with subfolders
> on the left side to one Folder on the right side (Freigabe on the
> network drive). By this action a got a warning, which I have ignored !
and your
> I can imagine that ot is a problem to have several folder pairs synchronising to one folder
I have a suspicion of what you did "wrong".
I will make a few very simple (example) assumptions.
* You have a at least two subfolders that you want to sync from your C-drive to your W-drive.
C:\FolderC\SubFolderC1 and C:\FolderC\SubFolderC2
* you want to Mirror those subfolders into W:\FolderW
It seems you now have (at least) two left-right folder pairs:
Pair 1, Left: C:\FolderC\SubFolderC1 , Right: W:\FolderW
Pair 2, Left: C:\FolderC\SubFolderC2 , Right: W:\FolderW
This would create a copy of all content of SubFolderC1 and SubFolderC2 into FolderW (in its existing folder structure), giving the "problem" you describe that everything ends up in FolderW instead of in respective subfolders.
Additionally, it gives you the warning that there is an overlap between sync locations. This is correct, as both pairs share W:\FolderW.
There are two options to "solve" the problem (start by clearing all content from FolderW):
Option 1): create two folder pairs as follows:
Pair 1, Left: C:\FolderC\SubFolderC1 , Right: W:\FolderW\SubFolderC1
Pair 2, Left: C:\FolderC\SubFolderC2 , Right: W:\FolderW\SubFolderC2
If W:\FolderW\SubFolderC1 and or W:\FolderW\SubFolderC2 do not yet exist, FFS will ask you if it should create those folders for you, and you should confirm this.
Option 2): create a single folder pair as follows:
Pair 1, Left: C:\FolderC , Right: W:\FolderW
and define an Include Filter comprising two lines (replacing the default "*" Include Filter):
\SubFolderC1\*
\SubFolderC2\*
Both options should give you the (seemingly) desired result.
And there is no longer an overlap between sync locations, thereby omitting the warning.
> For the left side I cross the setting "Use lokal settings" (Datum und Grösse, Dateninhalt, Dateigrösse)
I suppose you mean the (global) Compare (F5) (Vergleichen) settings.
Or do you use multiple left-right pairs with local Compare settings? If so, why?
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Hi Pierry
Thanks to your description I was able to set up 4 working Sync-Jobs.
The 5th Sync-Job with a Filter to exclude the 5 following folders, works not correct:
\Fotos\
\Fotos Archiv\
\Musik\
\Videos\
and a file:
\pagefile.sys\
and the default settings:
\System Volume Information\
\$Recycle.Bin\
\RECYCLE?\
*\thumbs.db
After the synchronisation the Folder "Fotos Archiv" was copied to the right side, even it was excluded.
The 4 other excluded folders wasn't copied. Can you see the reason?
Left side: Drive F: all my personal folders, with subfolders plus "Fotos", "Fotos Archiv", "Musik", "Videos"
Right side: Freigabe "F_Daten_Hans" on the Network Drive.
All the personel folder incl. their subfolders where copied correct.
Best regards
Hans
Thanks to your description I was able to set up 4 working Sync-Jobs.
The 5th Sync-Job with a Filter to exclude the 5 following folders, works not correct:
\Fotos\
\Fotos Archiv\
\Musik\
\Videos\
and a file:
\pagefile.sys\
and the default settings:
\System Volume Information\
\$Recycle.Bin\
\RECYCLE?\
*\thumbs.db
After the synchronisation the Folder "Fotos Archiv" was copied to the right side, even it was excluded.
The 4 other excluded folders wasn't copied. Can you see the reason?
Left side: Drive F: all my personal folders, with subfolders plus "Fotos", "Fotos Archiv", "Musik", "Videos"
Right side: Freigabe "F_Daten_Hans" on the Network Drive.
All the personel folder incl. their subfolders where copied correct.
Best regards
Hans
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As all exclusions except \Fotos Archiv\ work OK, there is likely a typo.
The simplest way to prevent any potential typo's is to run a Compare in the FFS GUI, and then in the Compare result window select the \Fotos Archiv\ folder, and via a right-mouse-click in the context menu choose to exclude said folder.
To learn what you might have done wrong, you can then open the Exclude Filter and read if there are any differences to your original Exclude definition.
The simplest way to prevent any potential typo's is to run a Compare in the FFS GUI, and then in the Compare result window select the \Fotos Archiv\ folder, and via a right-mouse-click in the context menu choose to exclude said folder.
To learn what you might have done wrong, you can then open the Exclude Filter and read if there are any differences to your original Exclude definition.
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Thanks again for your helpfull description. It seems that the folder "Fotos Archive" had not the same name in FFS as in the Explorer. Since the the synchronisation was already executed an I deleted the miscopied folder on the right side, the Compare function didn't show me the folders to copy to the rhigt side.
A newly started Synchronisation made no copy of the folder *Fotos Archive". So i'm shure that the Sync Job no works correct.
I set up also e Windows Batch Job which is starting my 5 FFS Batch Jobs every Saturday, when the PC is runnen. So at saturday I will test that.
Pierry thanks a lot indeed for yor support for the whole automatic Backup of my PC in a short time. FFS is really a very nice tool with a perfect GUI, that is best using of the Windows Features. I will propagate FFS to my collegues.
Best regards
Hans
A newly started Synchronisation made no copy of the folder *Fotos Archive". So i'm shure that the Sync Job no works correct.
I set up also e Windows Batch Job which is starting my 5 FFS Batch Jobs every Saturday, when the PC is runnen. So at saturday I will test that.
Pierry thanks a lot indeed for yor support for the whole automatic Backup of my PC in a short time. FFS is really a very nice tool with a perfect GUI, that is best using of the Windows Features. I will propagate FFS to my collegues.
Best regards
Hans
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Hi Perry
Sorry, that I have to come again. I now have Problems with the Windows Task Scheduler.
I defined a Batch-Job which should start my 5 xy.ffs_batch Jobs in FFS.
When I start this Batch-Job it coms the Erros Message *FreeFileSynch - Fehler, Die Datei "F:\PC Elektronik\FreeFileSync Jobs\C Eigene Dateien Hans Backup_gui.ffs_batch" wurde nciht gefunden."
I guess ther is an error in the Syntax. What is wrong?
Best regards
Hans
Sorry, that I have to come again. I now have Problems with the Windows Task Scheduler.
I defined a Batch-Job which should start my 5 xy.ffs_batch Jobs in FFS.
When I start this Batch-Job it coms the Erros Message *FreeFileSynch - Fehler, Die Datei "F:\PC Elektronik\FreeFileSync Jobs\C Eigene Dateien Hans Backup_gui.ffs_batch" wurde nciht gefunden."
I guess ther is an error in the Syntax. What is wrong?
Best regards
Hans
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Says file is not found... Is the path to your .ffs_batch correct?
The scheduled task should run the command "C:\Program Files\FreeFileSync\FreeFileSync.exe" with the path to your ffs_batch as the parameter
The scheduled task should run the command "C:\Program Files\FreeFileSync\FreeFileSync.exe" with the path to your ffs_batch as the parameter
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What is your F-drive?
Is it a local drive, this should work (unless ...)
But, if the F-drive is a mapped network location, it depends on may factors.
Given your error message, it seems the latter is the case.
Drive mappings are user-specific. If your the user credentials you have selected for running your FFS scheduled task are different from your normal user credentials (and by default they are), the F-drive mapping may not exist or point to some other location.
Even if run under the same user credentials as for which the F-drive is mapped to the intended location, it depends on how your F-drive mapping is performed.
It is therefore much more robust to use the IP network address of network resources, particularly in scheduled task (e.g. something like "\\192.168.2.13\hans\PC Elektronik\FreeFileSync Jobs\C Eigene Dateien Hans"
Is it a local drive, this should work (unless ...)
But, if the F-drive is a mapped network location, it depends on may factors.
Given your error message, it seems the latter is the case.
Drive mappings are user-specific. If your the user credentials you have selected for running your FFS scheduled task are different from your normal user credentials (and by default they are), the F-drive mapping may not exist or point to some other location.
Even if run under the same user credentials as for which the F-drive is mapped to the intended location, it depends on how your F-drive mapping is performed.
It is therefore much more robust to use the IP network address of network resources, particularly in scheduled task (e.g. something like "\\192.168.2.13\hans\PC Elektronik\FreeFileSync Jobs\C Eigene Dateien Hans"
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F: is a local drive as patition on the harddisk. I also think that it should work, but it doesn't.
I have troubles with the "Aufgabenplanung" (Windows Task Scheduler). It is hanging at serveral functions and i Could not delete not used jobs. But that is not the problem of the new Job which conrains 2 actions:
"F:\PC Elektronik\FreeFileSync Jobs\C Eigene Dateien Hans Backup.ffs_batch"
"F:\PC Electronik\FreeFileSync Jobs\F Daten Hans Backup.ffs_batch"
The pathes an file-names are exactly as in seen in the file explorer.
I have troubles with the "Aufgabenplanung" (Windows Task Scheduler). It is hanging at serveral functions and i Could not delete not used jobs. But that is not the problem of the new Job which conrains 2 actions:
"F:\PC Elektronik\FreeFileSync Jobs\C Eigene Dateien Hans Backup.ffs_batch"
"F:\PC Electronik\FreeFileSync Jobs\F Daten Hans Backup.ffs_batch"
The pathes an file-names are exactly as in seen in the file explorer.
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Hi Perry
I now changed the account to execute the Batchjob to Administrator. When I click to "Ausführen" (Execute)
no error message appear, the window flckrs a bit and nothing elese happened. I tested also with setting the Start Time, but I don't see starting the defined x.ffs_batch.
I don't trust the Task Schduler program on my PC, As I already mentioned I can't delete Batchjobs of programs what are deinstalled or such that I want to deactivate and delete.
Is there a possibility to reinstall or repair the Task Schduler on Wondows 10 ?
I now changed the account to execute the Batchjob to Administrator. When I click to "Ausführen" (Execute)
no error message appear, the window flckrs a bit and nothing elese happened. I tested also with setting the Start Time, but I don't see starting the defined x.ffs_batch.
I don't trust the Task Schduler program on my PC, As I already mentioned I can't delete Batchjobs of programs what are deinstalled or such that I want to deactivate and delete.
Is there a possibility to reinstall or repair the Task Schduler on Wondows 10 ?