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But I doubt caching is the issue as the files being transferred are small text files only a few KB each at most and when the folder is manually copied using robocopy from the command line in mirror mode (which makes it copy files similarly to a one way sync in FFS) it takes a very small fraction ...

I've found a temp work around, if I Clear browsing data / Cached images and files (all time) before I exit GoogleChrome then the \Code Cache\js directory is emptied and FFS works as before (I had to run it twice to clear out the other side of the mirror because I delete to the recycle bin).

So I'm ...

I have had exactly the same problem since I installed 10.11 yesterday. Directories with many files bring it to a standstill. I noticed this most obviously on Google Chrome's \Code Cache\js directory which contained 65K or so very small files. I trimmed that last night to under 30K but my mirror this ...

https://github.com/abcdec/MinFFS should help in getting started

The error message looks like you're loading a FFS 7.7 config file with version 7.6.Zenju

Yes. False alarm. I have both portable and local installations and I hadn't updated both.

OS Win8.1
Upgraded from V7.6 to V7.7 today and
`FreeFileSync.exe Something.ffs_batch`
Produces a dialog saying

Configuration file "Something.ffs_batch" is incomplete. The missing elements will be set to their default values.

The following XML elements could not be read:

<FreeFileSync ...

you asked twice, I answered on the other side

do you know (it is hard to explain so isn't discussed much) you can do stuff in the batch files that can achieve most of this?

since you seem an intelligent person I am going to challenge you to work it out yourself. mainly, I think you are the creator of your own problem. FFS does not do 3 way ...

do the sync'd folders actually have different names or was that just to explain?
i.e. are you really syncing a file called ABC.txt between two directories with different names? Why are the folders not the same name?

does Help / Command Line Usage not answer this?

Item !. is Run a FFS batch job

It isn't just a case of exclusion, there are a number of files that only make sense on one system and not another unless you are attempting to replicate a drive which is a different goal to synchronisation. Take for example ntuser files, you may copy these to another physical disk but they are ...

Personally I think this is a general issue. I can understand you not wanting to get involved, Zenju, as it isn't *your* OS but I have said previously and say again that I think the default list of excluded files for Win needs updating. AT the moment it is crap and doesn't reflect the change in Win ...

if you right click on the top of the two file lists you can add date+time on both sides. you might want to start off with two-way rather than mirror and do things by hand until you get the hang of things and it might suit your selective update work process better

P.S. are you my brother in law?

What OS or more pertinently, what file system(s) ? Modified == Creation if no Modification has happened yet on most file systems so is generally redundant for sync purposes

what is your setting for Comparison (F6) / Ignore time shift ?
What file systems are in use and are they all the same or different?
I'm guessing the time zone is the clue

Presuming you're using Win there are some files that don't sensibly copy from one PC to another that could easily account for this. If you want to make a copy of a drive I wouldn't start with FFS.

Whatever you want to say with your philosophic approach, even version 7.1 behaves like I described.echtatze

you get a crash? after all these years?

it is possible, the source code is available. Someone else has made a much better case for the db to be accessible, you should read that discussion

I think the trick is to use the gui mode to open a batch script (i.e. the script has the log settings).

I use this often and it works here

No reply here?echtatze

Some time has passed, the world has spun around a bit but you seem to be in exactly the same place as before.

Most people would expect your version of FFS to have changed in the last year or so

> As a casual reader I think you want mirror as the main FFS mode but also need moved files detection. In your case it is looking like these two options aren't going to work together.

Mirror and moved files detection work just fine together. The issue isn't the functionality of FFS, its where the ...

you need to provide more details.

are you perhaps using a USB drive as an intermediary between systems? that might explain things

Ah, I thought you were Win only, my apols. If I can presume again you can use datenumber or similar mod 3 to get a cycle of 3 backups, etc. they'd be numbered 0, 1, 2 and you'd have to check the date to know which was most recent in case of a restore but it works for 2, 4, 5, n arbitrary cycles too.

is this over a network or other situation in which a large cache or buffer might exist ?

Aaron, it is obviously not my call but I think there are enough specifics about your situation that you might need (yet) another thread.

I'm thinking the combination of factors in your case is getting unusual.

As a casual reader I think you want mirror as the main FFS mode but also need moved ...

Just to help tidy things re Win XP, I am using a (not main) 10+ year old Toshiba P30 running WinXPSP3. I have just tested and FFS7.1 is fine.

Steven & Zenju, there are some other things to check like SSE support that result in software not working. e.g. hardware that doesn't have SSE2 support is ...

What is your requirement for XP SP2 ? XP SP 3 is the last supported by anyone in that series. To be clear, I can understand XP SP3 for operational reasons but not XP SP2 which is seriously dead

If it is an issue of files there are number of utilities (including FFS under *nix) that may help, but ...

I'd do it by a scheduled batch file or delete to recycle bin and empty older than n days or rotate manually

you run a daily routine to delete permanently or (possibly for extra safety and taking account of disk resources) to recycling facilities anything in the appropriate directories older than now+73h or however your chosen tool wants you to express it.

I also think you'll have to arrange long term ...

is it the fact the db files can be seen or that they might be deleted or similar that is the problem with them being where they are at present?

date is a macro, have a look under help / macros for more
e.g. weekday will give you a self maintaining grandparented set of 7, etc

if you want some completely arbitrary time based or number based setting you should roll it yourself.

you don't actually say what versioning limit you want

same as before, I think

I am being rude to the same amorphous group of people as you, the people that don't understand. Do *not* make me the bad person

Anyway, I think, as time passes you will understand.

Bye for now

Of course not! I think you are being obtuse now. Or, possibly a language thing, in which case *I* apologise because this was meant to be a heads up not a moan.

I thought you would see the connection to other people making reports unconnected *directly* with FFS but which they see as clearly ...

you don't see a problem with two concurrent applications needing NTFS VSS in orthogonal states?

strange

one
application needs NTFS VSS ON
another
application needs NTFS VSS OFF

if your imagination is small they will not clash and never have.

P.S. I think I can force the clash but as I said, it ...

which we sometimes put down as lack of user knowledge, neh?

if you don't understand my point leave it

I said at the start this is not a problem for me

I'm not saying FFS or the defrag prog is wrong, I'm saying it might produce an error message that would be hard to figure out or not be understood cf. more than one recent discussion.

For example it is unknown if the user would see the error as being in one prog or the other, both are doing what ...

Copy locked files means NTFS VSS = ON
Most de-fragmenting programs default to VSS OFF

What happens if both occur at the same time?

Not an issue for me as de-fragmenting is a manual housekeeping process here.

encrypted drives is the obvious common denominator

thanks!
i fixed it in file. Is there a way to set log path in gui? Alternate solution would be to set execution folder in task planer.

For sake of completeness i added screenshot with error. This points also to logging problem because the error occurs after success.
the log file path and other ...

Hi

Every time I have got RealtimeSync running, it keeps waking up my Windows when it falls asleep. I didn’t notice this behavior before version 7.0 of FreeFileSync. The thing is, once I close the notebook lid to stove it into my bag, when I take it out of it is running again.

When I query my ...

"all those ntuser files" is the user and system registry database. If I'm backing up my user directory from the root, I for one want that backed up. You should either exclude them yourself if you don't want them, or enable backing-up of locked files in the settings.
do you want to talk more crap ...

Instead of using "Mirror", you can use the "Update" synchronization variant.
Assuming an A => B Update sync,
* Any files existing on A and not existing on B will be copied from A to B
* If files exist on both A and B, and have the same date/time and size, nothing happens.
* If files exist on both ...

"all those ntuser files" is the user and system registry database. If I'm backing up my user directory from the root, I for one want that backed up. You should either exclude them yourself if you don't want them, or enable backing-up of locked files in the settings.
have you thought about their ...

I wonder if this wouldn't be better generalised by using an external prog to do the comparison as there are potentially myriad variants of permissions.

FreeFileSync only works with whole files.drghughes

Further
1. I would expect the torrent s/w to deal with this
2. there are algorithms like that used in rsync that are specifically designed to minimise traffic. I'd guess with v7 they could be included in FFS in future but I wouldn't expect it soon

synchronization settings / handle errors / ignore

I don't think FFS will copy permissions only

I've seen your bonus pt and think you need another prog.

There are other ways of saying "these files are the same, give them the same attributes".

FFS isn't it

P.S. How do you know the files are exact except for the permissions? Just curious.

As a person fairly new to the detail of recent Win file systems but very familiar with actual file systems I was wondering what other people choose to back up / sync and not back up and so on.

I'm exploring things from a Win 8.1 POV but I think Win OS's from Vista onwards are all similarly affected ...

What is your comparison setting ? I can imagine some circumstances where the combination of File Content, RTS and some largish files changing often could result in strange happenings. In general I think you need to tell us more.

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